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Oh dear, oh dear..!

Here's a selection of the excuses Highways have come up with when we've suggested improvements or changes to signage that we think would make a difference...

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Pedestrians...
We suggested that pedestrians signs at either end of the village to help warn drivers about the narrow footway might help.

Highways said...
"The pedestrians sign to diagram 544.1 would not be appropriate given that Hill Chorlton already has a footway."

Actually the individual who made this comment has a short memory. On his first - and only - visit to Hill Chorlton he was nearly flattened by a low loader carrying an earthmover while standing on the pavement outside Croft Farm.
Pedestrian warning sign in Audlem, Cheshire

We photographed this sign on the A525 in Audlem, less than 8 miles from Hill Chorlton where there is also a narrow footway alongside a main road. Or are the Highways regulations different in Cheshire...? We don't think so...!

Concealed entrances...
Concealed entrances are a big danger in Hill Chorlton to residents and drivers alike. We suggested an exclamation mark sign at either end of the village with a plate saying "Emerging Vehicles".


Highways said...
"Also ‘emerging vehicles’ is not a permitted sub plate with sign to diagram 562 (exclamation mark).
"
Emerging vehicles sign in Ellesmere

Well in which case it looks like Shropshire Highways are going to be in dead trouble. We photographed this sign outside Ellesmere on the B5068.

Cattle Crossings...

We pointed out that the cattle crossing at the brow of the hill between Hill Chorlton and Kennels Lane seemed to have been missed by the surveyor. That's assuming he even got out of his car...!

 Highways said...

"Evidence of a cattle crossing on the carriageway (mud & debris etc) has not been observed and also from discussions between Engineers from Staffordshire Highways and the farmer this was not raised."


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You can see the cattle crossing on the satellite picture on Google Maps. They didn't even need to leave their desks to see it...!

Signs in hedgerows...

We pointed out that new signs were being put in places where hedges and trees were likely to obscure them. And that tractor mounted flail cutters have a problem with cutting around signs.

Highways said...

"Regarding the maintenance of hedgerows and vegetation cutting, it is possible to cut hedges without the use of a tractor-mounted flail and we have an ongoing monitoring and inspection programme with full time Highways inspectors who will endeavour to ensure all signs along the route are visible to motorists."

That'd be that wussy thing from B&Q you use to trim your privet hedge, would it?

Hidden sign at Hill Chorlton

So why put a brand new sign right behind a tree? Wait until the Spring and you'll hardly be able to see it. Legally it's the landowner's duty to keep the signs visible. So next year expect to see hedgecutting contractors jumping off their 4x4 tractors with shears to cut around the roadsigns.... yeah, right..!

Highways said...

"The focus of this project is the reduction of motorcyclist casualties, any existing roadside furniture which is superfluous has been removed as metal posts at the side of the road provide an obvious hazard to motorcyclists. Where appropriate we have used innovative “passive” posts which are designed to yield under impact rather than remain erect like traditional metal posts."

...and biker blight.

Apparently, traditional metal signposts are, a greater hazard to motorcyclists than is their own stupidity.

It does seem rather strange that bikers now have a higher priority than residents who pay their taxes and spend years trying to make the road a better safer place.

Erm.... bikers... young men in the Highways department? Britain's Best Biker Routes... Surely...not! It can't be true... CAN IT?!
In response to concerns we raised in August 2007...

Highways said...
"The surface appears to be in very good condition and has been recently surface dressed, perhaps 2 or 3 years ago.
"

The workmen said...
"They probably never even got out of their car."
A51 at Hill Chorlton resurfacing

Barely two years later the road is expensively ripped up and replaced under the Motorcycle Casualty Reduction Project.

Evidently a surface which is considered "very good" for the rest of us is considered not good enough for a biker doing 100mph.
On the speed limit review....

Highways said...
Err.... nothing...!

When asked for a
copy of their plans by email...

Highways said...

"Should you wish the scheme drawings are available to be viewed by prior arrangement at Riverway, where the details can be explained?"

Getting information out of Highways, or getting them to engage in a meaningful consultation is a bit like looking for hen's teeth. NOBODY is going to trail down to Stafford and make an appointment to look at plans - and they know that.

If you want to know what Cheshire West and Chester are doing about their speed limit review you
just look on their website where you'll find all the details of how far they've got all up for comment.

To put plans and consultation documents on their website - like other county councils do - would cost them next to nothing. It would show some commitment to openness and constructive public consultation. And if people didn't check them out and make their views known they'd only have themselves to blame.
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